Ben Miranda Calls Randy Graf a "Racist or an Uneducated Fool"
"What drives them is race, there is no other explanation for what they are doing today," said Rep. Ben Miranda, D-Phoenix. "To call Randy Graf, and I wish he was here, a racist or an uneducated fool, is perfectly on the dot."
It's a preposterous charge. Many Arizonians are opposed to illegal immigration, yet are not racist by any means. I'm sure there's some marching against illegal immigration that are motivated by bigotry, but to affix a racist label to a substantive voting block is an outrage. I oppose illegal immigration because, um, it's illegal. Without even venturing into pro or con arguments on whether or not mass immigration is duly needed, it would be a sorry day (and some may suggest this is already the state of America) if everyone decided which laws should be obeyed and which should not, and then acted accordingly upon those whims.
But, let's examine the selling points of the proposed initiative and see if any tint of prejudice can be found:
The initiative will require proof of citizenship to register to vote AND require proof of citizenship to receive any non-federally mandated benefits/goods/services. In other words, everyone will be required to prove they are a citizen to register to vote, and the initiative will ban using taxpayer funds for programs or benefits for illegal aliens unless mandated by the federal goverment.
I'm not sure I can support such a proposal, but I don't think it's the "most ridiculous, outrageous and discriminate petition campaign we've seen in Arizona" as state representative Steve Gallardo (D) proclaimed.
Another thing that irks me is the sanctimonius tone of both the daily newspapers, always quick to suggest that opponents of illegal immigration are unenlightened, misguided fools doing the bidding of evil.
Let me reiterate - I can wish all the blessings and have all the sympathy in the world for the illegal immigrant, the individual, but still be drastically opposed to public policy that sanctions and legitmizes breaking of the law. Change the immigration laws if more immigration is desireable. Don't sidestep the rule of law.
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countries for all kinds of reasons. They yook yhe dirty jobs and suffered the usualdiscrimination that faces all immigrants. One difference, they
learned the language, they faced the challange of
learning the laws, for the most part they obeyed them. They filed all the required documentation,
dotting all the I's and crossed all the T's. When the time came, they took the oath of allegience and embraced America. The "ILLEGALS" have taken
the low road. Stealing across the border in the dead of night. They start out by willingly breaking the law. They owe us no allegience and
do all in their power to subvert the system to
further their ends. They have formed an unholy
alliance with powerful officals that cover for them. Official who snicker at the concept of
legality.
Furthermore do not forget how illegally your gringo’s ancestors immigrated to former Mexican territories and how illegally declared war and fought against Mexicans to take over their lands.
In some way I understand your xenophobia, because one of the usual reactions of the human being when facing his scenes is to hate others who, in some way reflect their same scenes.
Along your country history you and your ancestors are plagued of injustice toward other people and countries, therefore I assume you are genetically marked with the shame of your past and present and thus you hate every people doing the same as your ancestors and yourselves. I think this is the main reason of your hate toward immigrants.
Please do not forget, be smart, and be in peace with your soul and stop hating yourself and your ancestors through others.
We were required to furnish housing, utilities, transportation etc. for the Mexicans, meeting all OSHA requirements!
We were the first farmers to hire Mexican, migrant workers on the farm in the 70's, 80', and early 90's until we went bankrupt and lost everything we had. The Mexican had nothing to do with the bankruptcy! It was poor management.
They worked hard and did a great job! We did not understand their language, but we could show them how to do a job and they did it well! If they went to school at all, so they told me, they had to take English, so they could understand broken english.
We paid them $7.00 per hr. then and paid 100% of their Social Security to be sure it was paid!
The American farm workers, got the same pay, but had to pay everything out of their pockets for medical, and all the things above. There were no government funds to help any of us! All American workers had to furnish their own housing etc.
In the early yrs. only the men came. They sent home to their families in Mexico, most of their earnings, and never caused problems.
Then ENTER THE US GOVERNMENT!!!
They told the Mexicans they had funds for their free medical care, free prescription drugs (often in the form of samples at the medical clinics). Free surgery, food stampe, welfare, prenatal care and free delivery and after birth care. Free prescriptions for after free surgery and care, and on and on!!
Yes! They got all of this, but they did not ask for it!
Our government decided we should give them all these things, and maybe more!
They had funds to pay Mexican students to work in the Medical Clinics.
There were no funds for our American Students to be paid at the clinics. It was considered volunteer work!
The Americans who worked on the farm, including our children, got no funds for any of these things things, but had to pay full price for everything out of their own pockets. The Americans and Mexicans made the same hourly wage.
We loved the Mexicans, treated them as family, furnished housing, and yes we had them work because there were few locals who would work with us in the fields.
Yes! Our government is the reason for all these expenses by deciding the Mexicans should have free everything-not the Mexicans!
Our government is so deep with all this 'free stuff' that I doubt it can every be reversed! Our Government has taught the Mexicans to expect and get all the freebies!
But nobody cares because they don't look any different. They aren't causing any more or less problems than Mexican people here. Why should we discriminate based on race alone?
This country was built on people who came from all countries, both "legally" and "illegally" depending on what the politicians decided was polular at the time.
"…But are there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected from a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners? It is for the happiness of those united in society to harmonize as much as possible in matters which they must of necessity transact together. Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent. Every species of government has its specific principles.
Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies [the equivalent of today's despots, tyrants and kleptocrats - Vicente Fox comes to mind]. Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass."
- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia
Jefferson foresaw what we reap today - he would be appalled that we did not heed his warning.
Ben Miranda is racist and is "umamerican".
If 75 percent of the folks of Arizona want the laws of our sovereign nation enforced, who the heck is Ben Miranda to say "bleep off people, I want lawlessness"?
Miranda is a horrible racist, who only wants to erase the border to further his hateful agenda.
Miranda is a horible racist that wants to bankrupt tax-payers, so his "own people" can flood the state and prop up his cause.
America doesn't need more racist's like Ben Miranda; we need less.
Here is a good site that confirms Mr Graf is correct:
http://www.thunderboltoftru...
Just my thjoughts on immigration. Keep up the good work !
Peace.
Don Whitehead
My Sister, her husband and my mother live in AZ near the border and I'm scared silly for them. We need Graf and Tancredo dodwn there to clean that up. But the Big Boys have something else going on.
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